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September 13, 2014 at 7:00 AM

Mariners’ crowds, Seahawks fan misbehavior: Times readers sound off


Fans watch
from afar

Where are the Mariners fans? (“Mariners winning, but fans slow to return,” Friday) We’re watching from afar.

It’s called payback for over two decades of utter ineptitude, ranging from players and coaches to management and ownership, where mediocrity was deemed good enough, and when there were many years when even that was an attainable goal.

Northwest fans finally have successful teams to support and cheer for, and boy, does that feel good. In the meantime, I’ll keep a wary eye on the M’s to see if they can actually secure a wild-card bid, though I won’t be holding my breath ­— been there, done that too many times before.

— Barbara Gust, Lynnwood

Paying the
price for failures

I went to Wednesday night’s Mariners game and was disappointed not so much in the number of fans, but in the lack of enthusiasm and intensity, given how few home games are left and the proximity of the playoffs. The M’s are appropriately paying the price for a long stretch of disappointment, and maybe this week has told the front office that they can’t expect masses of fans to turn up whenever 85 wins is in sight.

In this respect, 2014 feels like 1995, and I imagine attendance, as in ‘95, will soar in the last six home games if the M’s are in it until the end.

— Arne Christensen, Seattle

Home pratfalls
partly to blame

The fans would turn out in much greater numbers if the Mariner’s could play as well at home as they do on the road.

— Fred Utter, Shoreline

Price to pay
for waiting

Why so few Mariners fans? Like me, maybe they don’t like the dynamic pricing concept the Mariners are using. I want to be able to look at the schedule and get a price. I just bought seven tickets to the game against the A’s on Sunday. The man at the Mariner store told me if I would have bought them in April, they would have been $7 each. I spent $24 each. This does not seem right to me. Although the Mariners are doing great, I think this drives people away.

— David Crosby, Kirkland

Ray Rice

Puzzled by
NFL’s response

I don’t get the NFL and its reaction to the Ray Rice domestic violence incident. First they under-react with a two-game suspension, but only after the video of Rice dragging his victim became public. Rice returns to practice with a standing ovation. Then after a video of the actual punching incident is shown to the world, he is suspended indefinitely.

What did they think? That the (then) fianceé fell asleep on the elevator floor? It seems that they think domestic violence isn’t so bad if you don’t have to actually look at it!

— Penny Koyama, Bothell

Suspend Goodell
for incompetence

If Roger Goodell is not terminated for the Ray Rice fiasco, then the NFL owners should strongly consider turning the table on him, and suspend him for one year for fabrication, incompetence, and way over the top arrogance.

Roger that!

Bob Coyle, Clyde Hill

Outraged by
column wording

I am outraged at the Jerry Brewer column (“Goodell fails to wield hammer,” Wednesday). He writes “a muscular, 205-pound football player jabbing his woman hard enough to send her falling …”

His woman? She is NOT owned by him!

— Kay Ross


Clean up
12th Man act

You have a very talented football team, a beautiful stadium and dedicated fans. I enjoyed my morning along Pike Street Market and was impressed with the hospitality and courtesy of the store clerks.

But once I donned my Green Bay T-shirt, everything changed. Numerous Seahawks fans were hostile, rude, inconsiderate, and seemed to take great pleasure in harassing any and every Green Bay fan.

I ignored the jeers and the “in-your-face” mentality as I walked the mile to the stadium. Unfortunately, things got even worse. I have attended many college and professional sporting events and have never experienced anything like what I endured in Seattle.

I get the 12th Man spirit. However, this should not mean that anyone without Seattle loyalty gets verbally attacked and insulted. Clean up your act, Seattle.

— Kathy Huempfner, Bozeman, Mont.

Drive chart
to rule them all

Last Friday my paper had an eight-page Seahawks Extra section on the the opening game. Inside that section was a chart — a chart to rule them all.

I love concise and relevant data, and this chart was genius. It captured the entire game in five-minute perfection on just over one half of a color page. I cut it out. It’s the perfect way to have a record of the season!

— Andrew Engstrom, Seattle


Petersen MKC: My
Kind of Coach

When Chris Petersen was hired by the UW to coach football program, he proclaimed that they would win with “Our Kind of Guys” (OKG). Larry Stone, in his recent column (“Petersen all about doing things the right way,” Tuesday), wanted to know more about the recent discipline for one of the players but acknowledged that Petersen was consistent with his approach to expectations and accountability for the players on the Husky team.

I believe the message that Coach P is delivering is the correct one. I appreciate his reprimand-in-private-and-praise-in-public attitude to discipline and recognition.

He is MKC, “My Kind of Coach”.

— Ken Axelson, Bow


Pirate’s ship
now sinking?

Don James espoused an equalization of running and passing. Coaches Woody Hayes and Bo Schembechler believed three things could happen when you passed, and two of them were bad. All talented coaches want to win two out of three elements of the game (offensive, defensive, special teams) to be successful.

But when you operate at one-sixth of these guidelines, you’re courting disaster. It appears that the Pirate’s Good Ship Lollipop has turned into the WSU Titanic. The hyperbole of Mike Leach’s game-management skills seem to be exaggerated. Nonetheless, I see coach Leach being an enormous success as an author of fiction.

— Chuck Klein, Lake Tapps

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