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September 27, 2014 at 8:00 AM

Mariners’ swoon, NFL bad behavior: Seattle Times readers sound off


Valiant effort,
but not enough

Being close only counts in horseshoes. It is a pity because the Seattle Mariner late-season run for the playoffs was a valiant, but courageous attempt that came up short. But, this season produced a winning team for the first time in five years, and the fans showed their support by flocking through the turnstiles.

Most important, manager Lloyd McClendon has managed the team firmly, but with a deft, human touch that has produced spirited team play and ballplayers reaching their potential!

Next year, if we add two more real bats, and shore up the defense, we should make the playoffs!

— Douglas Q. Barnett, Seattle

McClendon not
going anywhere

Reader Robert Van den Akker (“It’s time for a real manager,” Backtalk, Sept. 21) tells us of his dissatisfaction with Mariner manager Lloyd McClendon in his September 21st letter in Backtalk, implying that he is not “a real manager.” As with the rest of us, he has a right to his opinion. But based on everything I have seen, heard, and read, this manager is the best one to come to this town in a very long time. He has found the perfect balance between authority figure and regular guy, between serious baseball man and laid-back observer.

Robert dismisses the Mariner manager with a cavalier, “See ya, Lloyd!”, as if he were going somewhere. But I would bet any money that the upper-echelon Mariners executives are more than thrilled with his presence in every way. And unless Lloyd becomes tired of his job, I don’t think he’ll be leaving us.

So I guess only one option remains: See ya, Robert!

— Tom Likai, Shoreline


What about
false accusations?

Bill Hickey wrote about a double standard (“Does a double standard exist,” Backtalk, Sept. 21). I agree with him. I am interested to know what happened to the woman who, wrongly, accused Marshawn Lynch of attacking her?

I am not trying to take anything away from violence to women, but there are those who make false accusations.

— Linda Martenson, Burien

Please formulate
coherent policy

The recent furor over the NFL’s handling of domestic violence incidents provides an opportunity for the league and players’ association to get together in formulating a coherent, enforceable policy.

It also should encourage fans and media to take a critical look at their own behavior. Football’s violent nature provides an exhilarating outlet, but too often fan behavior slips over the line from passionate to profane, from loud to loutish and out of control, and the same excesses are played out in domestic life.

The league has an opportunity to foster a greater awareness of civil discourse as a general principle. If an organization promotes an expectation of mature behavior, the ripple effects extend to the larger community. No one need sacrifice their passion or intensity; just channel it with a little class and self-control.

— David Arntuffus, Shoreline


Let quarterbacks
run the ball

Washington coach Chris Petersen says he wants quarterback Cyler Miles to “think pass” rather than “run” in his game management. Tendencies toward the same preferences have shown up in recent games of the Seahawks, 49ers and the Oregon Ducks.
But for all four teams, success by QBs running has played a big part in their offensive fireworks. The pass will always be a major weapon for their teams, but I maintain none will fully succeed until the coaches turn these key players loose to exhibit their considerable running skills.

— Rod Belcher, Seattle


Game coverage
was pathetic

Bud Withers’ Sunday “coverage” of the WSU-Oregon game (“Close as WSU came against Oregon, Leach knows it’s not good enough,” Sept. 21) was pathetic. I realize it was a late game, but lauding, praising, indeed genuflecting at the feet of Oregon’s quarterback Marcus Mariota was obscene. Why even mention the Cougars at all?
If not for one fourth quarter blatant ‘non-call’ on Oregon for pass interference the Cougars very well could have won the game, then maybe Mr. Withers might consider mentioning Connor Halliday? Not holding my breath.

— Marshall Weiss, Seattle

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